Oregon Lottery Slot Games

Oregon Lottery Slot Games

All Oregon Lottery video poker games have an auto-hold feature in which the game recommends a card-holding strategy during each individual game. Auto-hold strategies vary by game, based on the particular features of a game and do not necessarily result in theoretical payouts. Players have the option of overriding the game’s selections anytime. Jan 10, 2019  Oregon Lottery leaders plan to increase profits from video games by $10 million, or 3 percent, in fiscal 2014. The focus clearly is on electronic slot games - “line games” that mimic slots.

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slyther
I'm going to be in Oregon and will probably pass some time playing Video Poker (which is operated by the Oregon State Lottery). I was looking up some of their rules and reg's and found a couple interesting things.
First of all, the max payout on a video poker game is $600, regardless of coins bet. So it's actually to your disadvantage to bet max coins.
The other thing I noticed was that the rules say that once the deck is shuffled, it must remain static. Also, the first card you throw away must be replaced by the first card off the top of the deck (the replacement cards aren't dealt 'behind' the cards that are thrown away), etc.
My question is, does it matter which of those methods is used to deal the replacement cards? A card I can't see is a card I can't see so it doesn't matter right? Or does it matter because potentially one of the cards I am looking for to make my hand could in theory be unavailable if it was dealt 'behind' a card that I held?
(According to the Oregon lottery site: 'In video poker games, player choices affect the actual payout percentage of the game.' so the outcome is not predetermined)
MathExtremist
Oregon lottery VP games are indeed like Nevada games, but for the paytables and top-award limits you noted. They're based on RNGs and proper deck shuffling, not like the predetermined pull-tab games as in Washington.
It's not a disadvantage per se to make a max-coin bet, it's just a different paytable. The top award is capped so the lower parts of the paytable get fatter on a per-coin basis. I haven't done an analysis on the RTP of each coin level, but I'd be surprised if it went down as you increased your wager. Plug the paytable numbers into the Wizard's calculator to verify.
Either method of dealing replacement cards for discards is equivalent. The card you wanted to see is equally-likely to show up (a) next in the deck or (b) behind a given initial card.
'In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice.' -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
CrystalMath


A card I can't see is a card I can't see so it doesn't matter right?


You are correct, it makes no difference.
In Montana, games are capped at a $800 win and a $2 max bet, so VP is often set to pay 400 for a royal, but the other pays are increased to compensate for the lower royal.
I heart Crystal Math.
tringlomane

You are correct, it makes no difference.
In Montana, games are capped at a $800 win and a $2 max bet, so VP is often set to pay 400 for a royal, but the other pays are increased to compensate for the lower royal.


Same with bars/restaurants in Illinois: max $500 win with a max $2 bet. And paybacks do increase all the way to 8 quarters, but playing max bet only seems to add about 0.1% from 5 credits and 0.4% from 1 credit and at max bet you have to hold a lot more straight flush draws since any straight flush is often worth the max payout at max bet.
And Oregon bar poker is generally terrible. Like 92% terrible. You'd be better off visiting an Indian casino in the state if you could.
slyther
Thx everyone. Ya I know it's 92% terrible, it says so right on their site. I won't be within range of any of the Tribal casinos and this will be just to pass some time.
They do have the 'double up' feature available. In theory I should play that all the way up to the $600 max right? It appears to be a 0% edge feature.
tringlomane

Thx everyone. Ya I know it's 92% terrible, it says so right on their site. I won't be within range of any of the Tribal casinos and this will be just to pass some time.
They do have the 'double up' feature available. In theory I should play that all the way up to the $600 max right? It appears to be a 0% edge feature.


Theoretically it would be better since you will have less hands of actual vp, but it's a very high variance way to play. And also I would make sure they don't charge taxes on a $600 win. That's the usual threshold for other games run by the lottery.
Pokeraddict

Theoretically it would be better since you will have less hands of actual vp, but it's a very high variance way to play. And also I would make sure they don't charge taxes on a $600 win. That's the usual threshold for other games run by the lottery.


South Dakota and Montana do not write tax forms for $600+ wins. Also, as for Montana, the game I played called something like 'Montana Mania' (some double joker game) only improved the bottom pays the same increments as the bet went up, even if the $800 max was reached for the royal. I am nearly positive the return went down as you wagered more coins, at least on that game.
TerribleTom
'For Video Lottery℠ Platinum Series (PS) jackpot prizes, the Oregon Lottery is required to report all Video LotterySM PS jackpot prizes of $1200 or more to the Internal Revenue Service. The Oregon Lottery is required to report all Video LotterySM PS jackpot prizes over $600 to the Oregon Department of Revenue. For prizes over $5,000, the Lottery is required to withhold 8% for state income taxes.'
From this page:
http://www.oregonlottery.org/About/FAQ/
If you read that literally, cashing in a ticket for $600.01 would generate a 1099 or W-2G.
If you hit a $600 jackpot, play it down to $600 (or better, $599.99 or less) before you cash out.
Pokeraddict
So you have to pay state taxes on a $600+ video lottery winning. Makes it even more of a ripoff.
TerribleTom

So you have to pay state taxes on a $600+ video lottery winning. Makes it even more of a ripoff.


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Well, sort of...

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The reporting requirement would only apply to a single ticket with a value of $600 (or perhaps $600.01+) and the max payout is $600 even on 4/5/6 coin bets. I don't think I've ever seen someone put more than $100 into a machine at once and usually they're feeding $20 bills as needed. With that style of play, it would just be a matter of playing it down to $599.99 or less before you cash out.
You could cash in multiple $599 tickets and never pass the mandatory reporting threshold.

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There are some non-poker games with progressive jackpots that exceed $600 by quite a bit, and in that case you'd be stuck with a tax bill even if you were an out-of-state visitor. But if you stick to video poker it should not be too difficult to avoid the tax man even if you hit the top of the pay table multiple times.

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